ICMC 2011 Huddersfield¶
ICMC unconf SpatDIF meeting & space dinner 2011¶
Notes by jasch
Unconf Meeting: 2011-08-02 15:30 - 17:15¶
Nils Peters, Natasha Barrett, Scott Wilson, Hans Tutschku, Gary Kendall, Jan Schacher, Marlon Schumacher, Jean Bresson, Frank Melchior
Point Sources and other types of Sources (spread sources, granular clouds, perceptual gradients) - compound sources (NB, SW)
Spatialisation Not post-process
Process information vs. rendering instructions
GK: motivate people to use the format
SW: lowest common denomnator ?
GK: spatial intermediate representation
levels of mixing -> discrete channels vs. downmixed content
layers: as groups in diffusion practise (SW, GK, HT)
GK: describe target reproduction site
keyconcept: object-based vs. channel-based (stream-based)
HT: automation curves in DAWs, modify store export (how?)
DAW with osc-output, does it exist?
Roadmap of priorities: what are the goals?
Space Dinner: 2011-08-02 18:15 - 20:00¶
Andrian Freed, David Wessel, Gary Kendall, Frank Melchior, Nils Peters, Jan Schacher, Natasha Barrett, Marlon Schumacher, Jean Bresson, Eric Lyon, Andres Cabrera, Diemo Schwartz
AF: Buy-in from a big vendor necessary for acceptance
Q: NP history of Zippy? AF: history of OSC
Gk: more discussion this year about file-formats/interpretation less about real-time transformations
AF: key: make it relevant, cost of entry should be low
not light-weight: extensibility is a burden
GK: leadership -> dictatorship
AF: symbolic representation vs. indexed representation (MIDI as an example)
spatial defininions - perceptual spaces / topological spaces
: AF: quaternions -> Tom Duff firstname.lastname@example.org
kernel functions -> viewpoints: usability
AF: SDIF class inheritance as model
the opennes of the format generated a PROLIFERATION of formats
AF: composable type system -> not in the language
"raving about time-tags"
big companies corrupt the format
AVB - nano-second accurat (IEEE 88) unified clock
show-control as a background -> cirque du soleil, needs intergrated solution
Q: by AF: is there a DEV-Kit
idea of a bake-off in osc helped to make it known
competition with the same data-set (example files)
comparison of results -> what's the app
AF: symbolic representation
express intent in a vague way:
uncertainty of properties - range of unvcertainty
every parameter can have a degree of uncertainty
DW: compound sources
AF: are there diffusors?
NB: diffusers as common practise in EAM
AF: what's the relationshipü to the industries?
game-play videogames -> need plasticity
cinema -> dolby
EL: what's the target audience?
In his opinion SpatDIF is un-usable for him
(he's working in a channel-based paradigm)
remixing? every peice has to be reixed for every new venue
GK: intermediate representation
when diffusing a piece, the interpreter needs to playing around where to put layers, groups of sounds, to adapt to specific venue setup.
NP: what are the 5 most important venues for multivhannel diffusion:
SARC, Allosphere, ZKM Klangdom, IEM-Cube, ...
simple renderer / standard renderer (Binaural ?)
SpatDIF capture layers in software workflows
how to record data and media from a software environment
add playback engine
notions: encoder/decoder -> refer to flowdiagram authoring layer / renderer interpreter