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Jan Schacher, 08/05/2011 05:27 pm


ICMC 2011 Huddersfield @ ICMC unconf: SpatDIF meeting & space dinner 2011


Unconf Meeting: 2011-08-02 15:30 - 17:15

Participants:
Nils Peters, Natasha Barrett, Scott Wilson, Hans Tutschku, Gary Kendall, Jan Schacher, Marlon Schumacher, Jean Bresson, Frank Melchior

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Point Sources and other types of Sources (spread sources, granular clouds, perceptual gradients) - compound sources (NB, SW)
Spatialisation Not post-process

Process information vs. rendering instructions

GK: motivate people to use the format
SW: lowest common denomnator ?

keyword: transportability

GK: spatial intermediate representation

levels of mixing -> discrete channels vs. downmixed content

layers: as groups in diffusion practise (SW, GK, HT)

GK: describe target reproduction site

keyconcept: object-based vs. channel-based (stream-based)

HT: automation curves in DAWs, modify store export (how?)
DAW with osc-output, does it exist?

Roadmap of priorities: what are the goals?


Space Dinner: 2011-08-02 18:15 - 20:00

Participants:
Andrian Freed, David Wessel, Gary Kendall, Frank Melchior, Nils Peters, Jan Schacher, Natasha Barrett, Marlon Schumacher, Jean Bresson, Eric Lyon, Andres Cabrera, Diemo Schwartz

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AF: Buy-in from a big vendor necessary for acceptance
Q: NP history of Zippy? AF: history of OSC

Gk: more discussion this year about file-formats/interpretation less about real-time transformations

AF: key: make it relevant, cost of entry should be low

not light-weight: extensibility is a burden
user-interface issue

GK: leadership -> dictatorship

AF: symbolic representation vs. indexed representation (MIDI as an example)

spatial defininions - perceptual spaces / topological spaces

: AF: quaternions -> Tom Duff
kernel functions -> viewpoints: usability

AF: SDIF class inheritance as model
- failed

the opennes of the format generated a PROLIFERATION of formats

AF: composable type system -> not in the language

"raving about time-tags"

big companies corrupt the format

AVB - nano-second accurat (IEEE 88) unified clock
show-control as a background -> cirque du soleil, needs intergrated solution

Q: by AF: is there a DEV-Kit
idea of a bake-off in osc helped to make it known
competition with the same data-set (example files)
comparison of results -> what's the app

AF: symbolic representation
express intent in a vague way:
uncertainty of properties - range of unvcertainty
every parameter can have a degree of uncertainty

DW: compound sources
- grouped

AF: are there diffusors?
NB: diffusers as common practise in EAM

AF: what's the relationshipü to the industries?
game-play videogames -> need plasticity
cinema -> dolby

EL: what's the target audience?
In his opinion SpatDIF is un-usable for him
(he's working in a channel-based paradigm)
remixing? every peice has to be reixed for every new venue

GK: intermediate representation
functional

when diffusing a piece, the interpreter needs to playing around where to put layers, groups of sounds, to adapt to specific venue setup.

NP: what are the 5 most important venues for multivhannel diffusion:
SARC, Allosphere, ZKM Klangdom, IEM-Cube, ...

GK: competition
simple renderer / standard renderer (Binaural ?)

SpatDIF capture layers in software workflows
how to record data and media from a software environment

add playback engine

notions: encoder/decoder -> refer to flowdiagram authoring layer / renderer interpreter
Submix: NRT?


Notes by jasch